jong-un's rule because his dad died in the middle of december. i think it is because iran. iranians want a long-range missile. the north koreans have to test it to know it works and north koreans need the cash and iranians will not buy something that fails. jenna: that is interesting. since that time, iran says we're not in any sort of business with north korea. that's what they say. >> right. jenna: it is up to us to be skeptical to look into this. what makes you really believe the connection is being made? >> we know who is in another cree for iran. it is rep sentsd -- representatives of the industrial group. they are the people who at the end of last decade, two decades ago bought north korea's nadong missile and repainted with iranian colors and gave it to the armed forces and unveiled as the shahab-3. this connection goes back 15, 20 years. jenna: you say iranian officials are on the ground in north korea. >> right. jenna: has nothing to do with tourism. it has to do with business? >> it has nothing to do with sking. >> north korea needs mon